Comments on: The Martin Shift http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/ Considered Cycle Riding, Town & Country Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:53:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Alex McF http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-2577 Alex McF Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:10:24 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-2577 Gents, I like this mod very much! So, your thoughts, please, on simply moving the Sturmey Archer gear shifter onto the down tube! I am not very mechanically minded... However, it looks possible to relocate the shifter to the down tube and clamp it there with the existing ring that holds the gear cable and rear brake cable. At the hub end it looks like a simple matter of shortening the gear cable, albeit at the cost of losing the termination of the gear cable. This does not look like a problem as long as the gear cable is kept tightly screwed to the changing mechanism. Has anybody tried this? Thank you. Alex Gents,
I like this mod very much!
So, your thoughts, please, on simply moving the Sturmey Archer gear shifter onto the down tube! I am not very mechanically minded…
However, it looks possible to relocate the shifter to the down tube and clamp it there with the existing ring that holds the gear cable and rear brake cable.
At the hub end it looks like a simple matter of shortening the gear cable, albeit at the cost of losing the termination of the gear cable. This does not look like a problem as long as the gear cable is kept tightly screwed to the changing mechanism.
Has anybody tried this?

Thank you.

Alex

]]> By: Will from Hubjub http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1129 Will from Hubjub Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:54:59 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-1129 Hi chaps, sorry it took me so long to find this thread. Definitive answer on Silver Bullet lights -- we're a fixed gear specialist and (although this is a very nice light indeed) it's not really in our line, hence won't be a stock item. But we order regularly from Soma and are more than happy to custom-order them. (By the same token, we can get various seldom-seen Nitto racks and bars, obscure one-speed drivetrain components, special grips and other Guv'nor-appropriate goodies.) You might have to wait while we build the book up to minimum order size, but hopefully no more than a couple of weeks. BTW, since you seem like a pretty sociable lot, you might want to co-ordinate a bulk order between you -- it's easier to process one request for six lights than six different ones, and would likely work out cheaper. Best, Will / HUBJUB Hi chaps, sorry it took me so long to find this thread. Definitive answer on Silver Bullet lights — we’re a fixed gear specialist and (although this is a very nice light indeed) it’s not really in our line, hence won’t be a stock item. But we order regularly from Soma and are more than happy to custom-order them. (By the same token, we can get various seldom-seen Nitto racks and bars, obscure one-speed drivetrain components, special grips and other Guv’nor-appropriate goodies.) You might have to wait while we build the book up to minimum order size, but hopefully no more than a couple of weeks. BTW, since you seem like a pretty sociable lot, you might want to co-ordinate a bulk order between you — it’s easier to process one request for six lights than six different ones, and would likely work out cheaper. Best, Will / HUBJUB

]]> By: stephen http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-901 stephen Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:16:47 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-901 Thanks Ian, did you fit it yourself? Thanks Ian, did you fit it yourself?

]]> By: Ian Martin http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-900 Ian Martin Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:12:46 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-900 G'Day Stephen, I picked mine up off eBay, it's a clamp-on downtube shifter and they come up reasonably often, though less so with only the right hand side shifter and/or the dress plate. I used the Campag because I already happened to have it for another bike project but given my druthers I'd prefer something a little more in keeping with the period. Cheers, Ian G’Day Stephen,

I picked mine up off eBay, it’s a clamp-on downtube shifter and they come up reasonably often, though less so with only the right hand side shifter and/or the dress plate.

I used the Campag because I already happened to have it for another bike project but given my druthers I’d prefer something a little more in keeping with the period.

Cheers,
Ian

]]> By: stephen http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-898 stephen Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:45:48 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-898 Does anyone have any more info on where I could buy a frame mounted shifter as pictured above? Thanks, Stephen Does anyone have any more info on where I could buy a frame mounted shifter as pictured above?

Thanks,
Stephen

]]> By: Ian Martin http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-818 Ian Martin Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:47:12 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-818 Actually, I just used the top half of the included plastic bracket and simply replaced the chainstay bolt with a longer one. Unfortunately I'm not at home at the moment so don't have the length for the bolt to hand. Cheers, Ian. Actually, I just used the top half of the included plastic bracket and simply replaced the chainstay bolt with a longer one. Unfortunately I’m not at home at the moment so don’t have the length for the bolt to hand.

Cheers,
Ian.

]]> By: Geoff Baker http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-817 Geoff Baker Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:40:24 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-817 Good afternoon one and all, update on fitting the Soma Silver Bullet. I've had a fettle and fiddle and the plastic mounting bracket supplied can be used, by placing it on the wheel axle nut. You will need to line the circular clamp with some thin rubber or similar so the clamp grips the wheel nut. It then sits nicely between the chain stay and the plastic SA toggle chain cover, this is of course refers to the 3 speed model*, single speed and Plus Four models would just clamp to the axle nut. *Of course you fellow GOC members who don't live in 'The Empire', and ride on the wrong side of the road, would mount the rear light on the left hand axle nut! Safe riding, Geoff 'Duchy Wheeler'. Good afternoon one and all, update on fitting the Soma Silver Bullet.
I’ve had a fettle and fiddle and the plastic mounting bracket supplied can be used, by placing it on the wheel axle nut. You will need to line the circular clamp with some thin rubber or similar so the clamp grips the wheel nut. It then sits nicely between the chain stay and the plastic SA toggle chain cover, this is of course refers to the 3 speed model*, single speed and Plus Four models would just clamp to the axle nut.
*Of course you fellow GOC members who don’t live in ‘The Empire’, and ride on the wrong side of the road, would mount the rear light on the left hand axle nut!
Safe riding, Geoff ‘Duchy Wheeler’.

]]> By: Geoff Baker http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-807 Geoff Baker Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:48:25 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-807 To one and all, regarding the Soma Silver Bullet light received today from Hubjub. The plastic fitting bracket supplied isn't any good for the Guv'nor. A bracket will have to be fabricated. I'm thinking the best fixing point is the Allen bolt as per the MAPD light. Aluminium, brass or copper could be used to match the light, bell or B17 saddle rivets. 'The Martin Shift', where the light is mounted by the rear axle also looks to be a fabricated or modified plastic bracket. Safe riding, Geoff 'Duchy Wheeler'. To one and all, regarding the Soma Silver Bullet light received today from Hubjub. The plastic fitting bracket supplied isn’t any good for the Guv’nor. A bracket will have to be fabricated. I’m thinking the best fixing point is the Allen bolt as per the MAPD light. Aluminium, brass or copper could be used to match the light, bell or B17 saddle rivets. ‘The Martin Shift’, where the light is mounted by the rear axle also looks to be a fabricated or modified plastic bracket.
Safe riding, Geoff ‘Duchy Wheeler’.

]]> By: Iain Moore http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-803 Iain Moore Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:40:42 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-803 Geoff, Many thanks for your further note about the Soma Silver Bullet. I missed the cut off for the first order Will was putting in with Soma - he tells me yours was despatched to you yesterday, so I hope you have it soon. There is another order going in in 2 weeks - I'll certainly be getting one then. Will did indicate that a larger order is preferred, so if anyone else out there in GOC-land would like one of these wonderous lights (or anything else from Soma in the US), do get your order in to Will at sales@hubjub.co.uk in the next few days. Cheers, Iain Geoff,

Many thanks for your further note about the Soma Silver Bullet.

I missed the cut off for the first order Will was putting in with Soma — he tells me yours was despatched to you yesterday, so I hope you have it soon.

There is another order going in in 2 weeks — I’ll certainly be getting one then. Will did indicate that a larger order is preferred, so if anyone else out there in GOC-land would like one of these wonderous lights (or anything else from Soma in the US), do get your order in to Will at sales@hubjub.co.uk in the next few days.

Cheers,

Iain

]]> By: Geoff Baker http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-699 Geoff Baker Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:26:44 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-699 Hi Iain M............. I left more info. about the Soma light yesterday, but for some reason it didn't show up unless logged in as member! It was marked 'awaiting moderation', so try that route to access. Safe riding one and all, Geoff 'Duchy Wheeler'. Hi Iain M.….….…. I left more info. about the Soma light yesterday, but for some reason it didn’t show up unless logged in as member! It was marked ‘awaiting moderation’, so try that route to access.
Safe riding one and all, Geoff ‘Duchy Wheeler’.

]]> By: Iain M. http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-698 Iain M. Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:32:15 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-698 Jonathan, "Iain M." (me) is certainly not the clearly creative Ian Martin who produced this wonderful specimen. We are most definitely two very different people! I do think the Silver Bullet light is the best match I've seen so far for the guvnor's style (right era, though maybe more Art Deco than path racer), so I'm keen to find out where I can get one, ready for the arrival of my 3-speed Guvnor in 4 weeks' time. Cheers, Iain Moore aka "Iain M." Jonathan,

“Iain M.” (me) is certainly not the clearly creative Ian Martin who produced this wonderful specimen. We are most definitely two very different people!

I do think the Silver Bullet light is the best match I’ve seen so far for the guvnor’s style (right era, though maybe more Art Deco than path racer), so I’m keen to find out where I can get one, ready for the arrival of my 3-speed Guvnor in 4 weeks’ time.

Cheers,

Iain Moore aka “Iain M.”

]]> By: Geoff Baker http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-695 Geoff Baker Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:05:22 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-695 Iain M..........go to- www.hubjub.co.uk click-Soma coming soon click-accessories click-lights, this is a link to the US website which shows the light and details. The chap, name of Will, at Hubjub is ordering a light for me as part of a larger Soma order from the US. If you are keen, suggest you contact him quickly to catch the order deadline. The price is £27.50 inc. p&p sales@hubjub.co.uk , at the moment it's a customer order item only, so it isn't shown on Hubjub website. Safe riding one and all, Geoff 'Duchy Wheeler'. Iain M.….…..go to– http://www.hubjub.co.uk click-Soma coming soon click-accessories click-lights, this is a link to the US website which shows the light and details.
The chap, name of Will, at Hubjub is ordering a light for me as part of a larger Soma order from the US. If you are keen, suggest you contact him quickly to catch the order deadline. The price is £27.50 inc. p&p sales@hubjub.co.uk , at the moment it’s a customer order item only, so it isn’t shown on Hubjub website.
Safe riding one and all, Geoff ‘Duchy Wheeler’.

]]> By: jseely http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-694 jseely Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:02:59 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-694 Iain (or is it Ian) Very nice work! I particularly like the use of the campy shifter. Cheers, Jonathan Iain (or is it Ian)

Very nice work! I particularly like the use of the campy shifter.

Cheers,
Jonathan

]]> By: Iain M. http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-693 Iain M. Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:34:09 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-693 Hi Geoff, I eagerly took a look but there doesn't seem to be a GBP price or any means of ordering the Silver Bullet on the hubjub UK site, just a "coming soon" link to the Soma US site. Did I miss a craftily hidden link? Iain. Hi Geoff,

I eagerly took a look but there doesn’t seem to be a GBP price or any means of ordering the Silver Bullet on the hubjub UK site, just a “coming soon” link to the Soma US site. Did I miss a craftily hidden link?

Iain.

]]> By: Duchy Wheeler http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-687 Duchy Wheeler Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:56:38 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-687 I've found an outlet in the UK that can source the Soma Silver Bullet rear light, price £24.50 plus tax and postage, wwwhubjub.co.uk , safe riding one and all, Geoff I’ve found an outlet in the UK that can source the Soma Silver Bullet rear light, price £24.50 plus tax and postage, wwwhubjub.co.uk , safe riding one and all, Geoff

]]> By: Nick Miles http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-368 Nick Miles Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:34:59 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-368 Very nice to see your campag shifter. a nice touch indeed. Very nice to see your campag shifter. a nice touch indeed.

]]> By: jmkd http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-297 jmkd Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:28:40 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-297 Jorge, the Campagnolo above is a friction shifter. Andrew, according to Soma they are stocked by <a href="http://bricklanebikes.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Brick Lane Bikes</a> Jorge, the Campagnolo above is a friction shifter.

Andrew, according to Soma they are stocked by Brick Lane Bikes

]]> By: Andrew http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-296 Andrew Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:02:12 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-296 I love the Soma light. Anyone know where one can be sourced in the UK ? I love the Soma light.

Anyone know where one can be sourced in the UK ?

]]> By: Jorge http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Jorge Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:14:51 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-292 Love the Campagnolo down tube shifter, is it friction or indexed ? SA is making a contemporary looking one (SLS30 R3T @ → http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/shifters/cid/3/id/10 ) but unfortunatelly you need to have braze ons to install it! They also make a «CLS 3 Speed classic ratio chopper lever» but no images are to be found anywhere → http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/shifters/cid/3/id/14 CLS, i wonder wht it looks like! Moebiusuibeom Love the Campagnolo down tube shifter, is it friction or indexed ?

SA is making a contemporary looking one (SLS30 R3T @ → http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/shifters/cid/3/id/10 ) but unfortunatelly you need to have braze ons to install it!

They also make a «CLS 3 Speed classic ratio chopper lever» but no images are to be found anywhere → http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/shifters/cid/3/id/14
CLS, i wonder wht it looks like!

Moebiusuibeom

]]> By: jmkd http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/founders-notes/guvnor/the-martin-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-283 jmkd Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:09:15 +0000 http://www.guvnorownersclub.com/?p=820#comment-283 I'm pretty sure it's a <a href="http://www.simpsoncycles.co.uk/product.php?xProd=475&jssCart=0dd3f2aedea20edb3ab46b1d9f6477d0" rel="nofollow">Pletscher twin kick stand</a> with the rubber feet. I’m pretty sure it’s a Pletscher twin kick stand with the rubber feet.

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