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9:28 pm
Sep 7, 2010


jseely

Rhode Island, USA

Regular

posts 42

Hopefully this topic will not be well populated, but today I went for a ride on the Guvnor, off to a meeting actually. And not even halfway to my destination the back wheel locked up. Actually it first became a bit harder to pedal and then skidded to a standstill. I am fortunate to have the plus four (#21) so it’s the 2 gear Duomatic rear hub.  I was not in the act of switching gears, just pedaling. The whole contraption is now tight as a, well I won’t go there but needless to say the Guv is now in the back of Mrs. Seely’s car after she was kind enough to pick me up and deliver me to my meeting. She chuckled a bit on the way. No time at present to dive into the problem with spanners and the like but I was wondering if any other unfortunate sole or bright lad might tell me what I might be looking at (cause and effect).

Best,


Joanthan

(RI Guv)

7:11 am
Sep 8, 2010


The Cycling Photographer

Moderator

posts 407

Dear J, annoyance beyond belief!! So sorry to hear your news. Alas I have no idea
as to the possible cause. Personally, my phone, email account and demeanor would
be RED HOT now. Contact Pashley or whoever you obtained the bicycle from asap.
Ride on.… when you are able.

8:57 am
Sep 8, 2010


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Post edited 2:28 pm — Sep 8, 2010 by Duchy Wheeler


Joanthan.….….……sorry to hear about the problem with your Plus Four. From what you’ve said it seems that the Sachs Duomatic internal brake cone is binding? Check out this website for technical and stripdown info.:   http://www.bicyclehub.co.uk    > Bicycle Gearing > Sachs Hub Gears.  

Warranty claim via the US Pashley agents, (other parts, 1 year from purchase.)?

Hope you get it sorted soon.

Safe rides? Geoff ‘DW’.


PS: have you received your wing nuts yet?

PPS: been having a look on the internet, there seems to be lots about the Sachs Duomatic hubs, but nothing specific on the problem  you are having! DW


1:06 pm
Sep 9, 2010


jseely

Rhode Island, USA

Regular

posts 42

One and all,

Work, dastardly work, has been keeping me chained to my drafting table so I am unable to deal with the Guvnor’s problem at present. Any information on the Sachs Duomatic in the meantime would be most appreciated, Thank you.

Best,


Jonathan

PS. Geoff, received the wing nuts in the post yesterday, many thanks for your good deeds.

6:27 pm
Sep 9, 2010


topper-hardy

Luebeck, Germany

Regular

posts 63

Hello Jonathan,


perhaps this link could be helpful to you: http://hubstripping.wordpress.…..omatic-fs/

The people there also seem to be experienced as regards to geared hubs, so you might find some help there.


Keeping my fingers crossed, that your problem will be solved soon.


Kind regards,


Hartwig

6:33 pm
Sep 9, 2010


jmkd

Admin

posts 114

A disaster!

This is the US distributor, although I know you bought direct from the UK they should surely help.

http://www.britishbicycle.com/.….ommon/home

Have PM’d you the person’s contact details.

James


8:38 pm
Sep 9, 2010


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Jonathan,

I’ve been reading some of the web sites regarding the Sachs Duomatic.  Just a thought, but might the problem be lack of lubrication to the unit, perversely the brake components require oil to function correctly.

Metal + metal + friction = heat - lub = seizure!

Safe rides one and all, Geoff.

9:06 pm
Sep 9, 2010


jseely

Rhode Island, USA

Regular

posts 42

Geoff,

It is a possibility. I did not think that I had put that many miles to require a maintenance lubrication at this time. It does seem as though the brake mechanism has seized. I guess I will need to disassemble!

Best,


Jonathan 

8:37 pm
Feb 15, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Jonathan ‘jseely’.….…any update on the your seized Sachs Duomatic rear hub? 

5:28 pm
Feb 18, 2011


jseely

Rhode Island, USA

Regular

posts 42

Geoff,

Thanks for the inquiry. The short answer is no.

I did try to find satisfaction by contacting British Bicycle here in the states but their reply was;

Hi Jonathan,

We do not warrenty any cycles that were imported to the USA outside of us.  I would take it to your local bike shop, (the older the shop the better) and see if they can repair the hub or order and lace you up a new one.”
There was no love in the response. I feel like I’m spinning my wheels (pun intended). There is no old bike repair shop around and the newer ones barely know how to fix current models much less the older type.
Need to get riding!
Jonathan

8:45 pm
Feb 18, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Jonathan,

Not a very satisfactory outcome so far! Maybe you could contact Pashley direct, to see if they will offer some goodwill assistance. After all, the hub did fail after an unreasonably short service period and Pashley must bear some responsibility in the matter.

They did source and fit these new old stock hubs and presumably they were thoroughly checked/serviced before being used on a new cycle, in fact it would have been negligent of them not to have done so.

I recall you purchased your Plus Four from Evans in the UK, under UK consumer law your redress is with the retailer. It may be worth contacting them, they will probably wriggle because it was exported to the US, but it might be worth a go!

Safe rides One & All. 

11:42 pm
Feb 18, 2011


Adam

Manchester, England

Moderator

posts 399

Evening Gentlemen,

What a poor show, I hope if you contact Pashley directly their service is a little better than other members have received of late.

Regards,

Adam

8:18 am
Feb 24, 2011


Fenrir

London

Regular

posts 165

Chaps, is there any quick and easy way of sorting a wobbly back wheel out? I took a hit this morning and have developed a slight wobble. It’s not too bad, but I’d rather get it sorted if theres a simple way.


Planning to put the Guv in for a yearly service soon anyway, so perhaps best to wait for that?

2:34 pm
Feb 24, 2011


Dogbreath

North Herts, England

Regular

posts 62

Sounds like you took a bang, go on youtube for help if you need to true you wheels…unless they are beyond repair :)

Plus Four no. 4 :)

3:12 pm
Feb 24, 2011


Fenrir

London

Regular

posts 165

It’s probably a simple job, so I’ll have a root around youtube. Could have been a lot worse considering the truck that wnt into me


Thanks


E

6:50 pm
Feb 24, 2011


Adam

Manchester, England

Moderator

posts 399

Evening Gentlemen,

Good news the only thing damaged was a wheel.

Mr. Brown is usually good at describing how to do these little jobs: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/wh.….build.html

On a personal level, it’s a black art truing and building wheels, even after an evening spent at my old cycle shop with the mechanic building a pair of wheels together. I’m more than happy to build a bike but set to work on a wheel and I’ll quickly produce a perfectly formed taco, something to take up again one day.

Regards,

Adam

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