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10:20 am
Jul 9, 2010


godfather186

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What tool kit do you bring when you ride?…I have read that some depend on distance…maybe also on SS or 3-speed..

How do you store it…in a “wrap”..leather case…in a wool jersey pocket

I have change out the nut on the coaster brake to a smaller wingnut for faster/easier tire change..and have pondered the idea of designing (splicing)a “quick release” on the brake cable to the front brake..

I love to hear any stories or advice from the veteran rider’s out there and “word’s of widom” will never be turned away..

so,please share your idea’s and insight.…


Keith

(01–50) PLUS FOUR

10:58 am
Jul 9, 2010


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Keith aka ‘godfather186’.….….……suggest you check out the Forum — Public House — Maintenance, for comments on the tool topic.….….……safe riding one and all, Geoff.

PS, are your rear wing nuts safe without chain tugs! Particularly so with a coaster brake?

11:36 am
Jul 9, 2010


Adam

Manchester, England

Moderator

posts 399

Good Morning,

I personally use a Brooks D-Shaped bag that contains:

  • Two open end spanners (9/10mm and 14/15mm)
  • Good quality tyre levers
  • A puncture repair kit
  • A CO2 inflator

I suppose I should also include a chain tool or maybe a multi-tool.

I think when you are deciding on you tool kit you can cater for every eventuality or just what is most likely to happen. I go for the latter approach although I do know that help is only a phone call and a bunch of flowers away.

Regards,

Adam

12:05 pm
Jul 9, 2010


godfather186

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Post edited 12:27 pm — Jul 9, 2010 by godfather186


Duchy Wheeler:..I ONLY have a ’”small” wingnut on the bolt that holds the coaster brake arm to the frame…NOT on the wheel axle itself..I do have extra wheel wingnut’s that ONLY fit the front wheel/axle..I have another bike,1950s paragon cycle’s track frame with  a 3 speed ASC sturmey archer hub/wheel ‚I have “track nut’s” with chain tug’s on this..I wouldn’t chance wingnut’s on there…

I did manage to pick-up 3 steel brook’s tyre lever’s and a king dick 4 spoke wrench so far,from an antique store close by…also have patche’s

I know the fight continue’s between CO2 or pump..and I haven’t had a flat in awhile.I don’t have CO2 inflator,but the though has crossed my mind..how many cylinder’s does it take to inflate..2,3??

I do want a chaintool though..but I wondered what some might carry..and how..thank’s for the response’s soo far:)

what about a 2 shower cap’s tucked under the seat..1) for the seat 1) for the helmet..good/bad idea??

and Keith is just fine,GODFATHER186 was our team’s callsign many desert moon’s ago:)…easier for me to remember..

Edited reason:when I say the wingnut’s DO NOT fit the rear wheel,might fit a 3 speed axle,I am not sure..

any PLUS FOUR owner’s that DO have WINGNUT’S on there rear wheel..were/wich brand did you use??

Duchy wheeler: I did find the post you have so kindly pointed out for me.my applogies gentlmen and ladies,I have been away as of lately and did not realize this was already covered..as they say “the search button is such a powerfull weapon to use”..seem’s I must do some catching up now:)…

HAPPY TRAIL’S!

9:50 am
Jul 10, 2010


schloopfeng

Regular

posts 64

Hi Godfather,

On the CO2 inflator .… there are different cartridges available, if I remember correctly 8oz & 16oz … I can inform you that a 16oz will inflate a 26″ 2.5 on my Nomad to around 45psi .…That said I have never been brave enough to hit the trails without a minipump as backup .… they are ok for a speedy inflate but to be honest it’s a bit like the GPS issue .… leaving civilisation with a GPS alone is madness & a map & compass is always advised.

So really the CO2 is only supposed to be an aid for race situations where you don’t want to carry much & there is plenty of support around if it all goes pear shaped.….being stuck miles from anywhere with the last cartridge spent would be a nightmare scenario as far as I can see.

at the moment all I carry on the Guv is my multitool (mainly for the chain splitter & of course the bottle opener ;o)

 the spanner that came with the Guv,

 a 10mm combi spanner,

 a long reach ball end 6mm allen key,

 a pair of Top Peak shuttle tyre levers (steel reinforced plastic … kind to the rims)

 a puncture repair kit & a mini track pump (handy as it has a toe plate & extendable hose)

& at the moment it all goes in my backpack as I need to save for the right saddle bag.…. I did get a Brooks saddle cover (medium fits the B17) & despite all the negative reviews I have read I find it to be very good for under a fiver & if it does show signs of leaking as some have reported then I have plenty of proofer around for my other bike kit that I am confident will do the trick.

Oh & I also have latex gloves … the thought of hands covered in chain lube on those leather grips makes me cringe.

TTFN Folks.

11:39 am
Jun 12, 2011


Rich Senior

New Forest

Regular

posts 111

Gentlemen,

I went to the Bicycle Workshop yesterday, in Notting Hill, which I thoroughly recommend. Not only did I get a new Brooks L’Eroica jersey in medium (they have small and medium in stock). They have a great selection of saddle bags from Brooks and Carradice. I did manage to find this saddle bag, which for £20 I thought to be a bit of a steal. Available in green only, but is quite a bit bigger (180x105x70cm) than the Brooks Challenge saddle bag (180mm wide x 80mm high x 50mm deep). I have managed to squeeze in to the new bag: a spare tube, puncture kit, tyre levers, King Dick spanner plus a 10mm spanner and mini pump. 

To be honest I prefer the look of the Brooks Challenge bag, but I think the Batavus one still looks the part and for £20 is a bargain. My only slight concern is the latch which is not as rugged as the Brooks design, should be up to the job though. Apparently the shop procured a batch of these from bankrupt stock.

I spoke to the proprietress who has run the shop for 31 years now. When I mentioned the Guv’nor she said she would love to buy one as she thinks they are fantastic but unfortunately found even the smallest Guv tool large for her frame.

Rich

11:45 am
Jun 12, 2011


fossil

Bognor Regis

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posts 72

What Ho Rich ,

 what size chest does the medium fit ?

In have one of 37″


 toodle pip old chap

 Ade

What, everything? The night I came home from Pongo Twistleton’s birthday party and mistook the standing lamp for a burglar?

2:17 pm
Jun 12, 2011


Rich Senior

New Forest

Regular

posts 111

Good day Fossil,

I have a 37″ chest too, so a medium should fit you like a glove, or even like a well fitting cycling jersey!

However, the proprietress did say she was getting low on the medium size, so act soon my friend.

Warm regards

Rich

4:02 pm
Jun 12, 2011


fossil

Bognor Regis

Regular

posts 72

What Ho Rich ,

many thanks for the info , I have put in my order


Toodle pip

 Ade

What, everything? The night I came home from Pongo Twistleton’s birthday party and mistook the standing lamp for a burglar?

6:02 pm
Jun 12, 2011


Biscuit

Regular

posts 92

If cycling unsupported or too far away to be rescued and get away with a bunch of flowers or camping and need to do own maintenance;


*‘Cyclo’ chain splitter 89 gms,

*spare link 4 gms.

8 mm Allen key 100 gms (crank arms),

6 mm 50 gms (stem, bars and seat),

5 mm 32 gms (Chain wheel, brake lever mounts and seat adj at nose of saddle),

2 mm 1gms (brake lever adjustment),

*small adjustable 132 gms (pedals, wheel nuts, brake arms, hub locking arm etc),

8 mm open end spanner 14 gms (brake ‘barrel’ adj at hub end — use with adjustable),

10 mm open end spanner 22 gms (to use with adj other spanner if/when needed e.g. hub locking arm nut and bolt)

15/13 mm open end spanner  76 gms (to use with adj if/when needed)

*phillips/flat end screwdriver blade [two right angle bends sort of z shape] 32 gms (well for those things that need it, gear selector, gear wire pulley, bell clamp),

*tyre foam canister 132 gms (if time is of the essence — e.g. the commute),

*puncture kit and levers 50 gms (if time is not of the essence),


Total inc of *rag, *wipes + *non-latex surgical gloves 687 gms or in real money 1lb 8oz


It all fits in a Carradice ‘cape roll’ adapted for tool carrying (stitching unpicked to make the three compartment tool bit a single compartment). Hardly notice its there.

Dont bother with stem nut/steerer nut spanners unless in the car when camping (no real logic there, although experience has taught me repeated tightening with hands will get you home or back to tent) 

And just so you know I’m not completely paranoid — if just ‘nipping out’ a pump (261 gms) and the tyre foam. And if just ‘nipping out’ but a bit furhter then the above with an asterix are what I would consider the usual minimum get by kit (but double up on adj)Wink


It is poss’ that with use of a Dremel that you could achieve a ‘single handle conversion (alloy tubes) for all tools and you could carry all in this list and still get away under a pound.


I know the maxim of a stitch in time and routine maintenance but even then a day out can be knacked by things just working loose e.g. that annoying creak from chain ring or crank arm etc. There is also the argument of if you carry one tool, you should carry them all but reason should prevail based on distance travelled, importance of journey, accessibility of support.

9:38 pm
Jun 12, 2011


fossil

Bognor Regis

Regular

posts 72

What ho chaps

 Mr Biscuit that is quite the comprehensive tool kit , not wishing to put out anyones fire with bodily waste , but a chum and I cycled from a rainy Lands end to a small village in the norh of scotland with not even a P******e ‚the best part of 1000 miles

 Though i did change my brake blocks at Ben Nevis  ( not actually on it  lol )

 I believe lady luck was with us


   toodle pip


 Ade

What, everything? The night I came home from Pongo Twistleton’s birthday party and mistook the standing lamp for a burglar?

10:01 pm
Jun 12, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Biscuit/One & All,

There’s more on the subject of what to carry in the way of tools etc. in Forum > Public House > Maintenance, currently on page 3.

Safe rides.

DW.

10:25 pm
Jun 12, 2011


MGCycleChap

Derbyshire

Regular

posts 319

Mr Biscuit.… I know of some cycle shops which carry less stock than that sir ! Wink


MGcC

7:07 pm
Jun 14, 2011


Biscuit

Regular

posts 92

MGCycleChap said:

Mr Biscuit.… I know of some cycle shops which carry less stock than that sir ! Wink


MGcC


Smile its amazing what one can get on a multi tool, now where can I fit this http://www.knighton-tools.co.u.….e_4in.html in the tool roll or in the rear pocket of my jersey.…..Surprised

4:58 am
Jun 15, 2011


MGCycleChap

Derbyshire

Regular

posts 319

Post edited 5:06 am — Jun 15, 2011 by MGCycleChap


5:09 am
Jun 15, 2011


MGCycleChap

Derbyshire

Regular

posts 319

… jersey pocket !.… you need the Guv’nor top tube mounted version !


MGcC

7:12 pm
Jun 15, 2011


David Terry

Harrogate, Yorkshire.

Regular

posts 102

Post edited 7:15 pm — Jun 15, 2011 by David Terry


Biscuit said:

If cycling unsupported”



However does one cycle unsupported?

dt

7:15 pm
Jun 15, 2011


Biscuit

Regular

posts 92

MGCycleChap said:


Hmmmmm, interesting placement, why do I feel strangely disconcerted by the open jaws and proximity to ones erh.…… man marblesSurprised Perhaps the vice could be used as a rider retention system to prevent ejection in the event of a ‘SMIDSYYell

7:25 pm
Jun 15, 2011


Biscuit

Regular

posts 92

David Terry said:

Biscuit said:

If cycling unsupported”


However does one cycle unsupported?

dt


It was meant in the finding oneself out of reach of ‘immediate’ assistance context - not in a desert sense or wild outback (of which there is some near Swindon) but more in a ‘oh dear’ here am I on campsite its early Sun’ I’m going for a ride, oh no theres that ‘creak’ again ooh the bike shop aint open till 10 sense. Or oh dear if I had that spanner I wouldnt have to ‘phone wife, mistress, friend to come and pick me up.….…

I’ve never had a chain break on, ever (not even off road), I do though carry a split link and chain breaker (and know how to use both Smile).

That said unsupported to me means no-one assisting you back to your start point etc. Thereby meaning you have to fix, fudge or bodge any outcome of mechanical failure (some people never have an event, some have a mechanical event quite regularly)…


Oh I see! That unsupportedEmbarassed ah perhaps that is what the vice is for aboveWink I would say I prefer a stout pair of under breeches for the erh ‘supporting’.

7:48 pm
Jun 15, 2011


MGCycleChap

Derbyshire

Regular

posts 319

Hmmmmm, interesting placement, why do I feel strangely disconcerted by the open jaws and proximity to ones erh.…… man marblesSurprised Perhaps the vice could be used as a rider retention system to prevent ejection in the event of a ‘SMIDSYYell

… No gain without pain Biscuit !

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