You may wish to look at a Clubman, Pashley have confused the picture a bit. You can now chose between a basic Guvnor or a Clubman that offers different gears and mudguards.
I would aim for a Cluman because it is more practical.
You may wish to look at a Clubman, Pashley have confused the picture a bit. You can now chose between a basic Guvnor or a Clubman that offers different gears and mudguards.
I would aim for a Cluman because it is more practical.
Regards
Mick
Yeh but! What about buying a Guvnor and you want to turn the bars upside down to make it into a Roadster! Define practical Clubman’s salright spose bit too ‘racey’ if you ask me.….….….….…
Nah, buy a Guvnor then when you can afford it buy a Clubman if you so wish.
Giving a bit of thought to the clubman/guvnor 2, and I think they are both nice bikes, but not distinct. The Guvnor as it stands is a bicycle that people recognise (I’ve had a fair people ask me if its a guv, or what type of bike it is). and is pretty unique on the market.
The clubman/guvnor 2 could be any old bike really. Still nice mind, but not individual.
I consider this thread to be reminiscent of that Volkswagon advertisement – “if you do this / that / the other it sounds just like a Golf”. Although when I bought my Guv the only choice I had was the single-speed or 3-gear version (I opted for the real one of course), and therefore Pashley didn’t exacerbate my dilemma with the Clubman / Guv quandary – however I could see Clubman owners of the future describing their machine as ‘like a Guv’nor but with gears and guards’. The Guv is the bicycle to own, ride, enjoy, be seen with – in my humble opinion the Clubman is for those who fall in love with Pashley (understandable) but can’t cut the cord from their modern indulgencies.
In short, anybody hesitating over buying a Guv’nor on grounds of ‘practicality’ or an alleged dearth of gears or mudguards, is missing the point. You are not Guv’nor material and would simply clog up the waiting list.
Clubman looks ok but can anybody explain the price differential between the Urban and the Country models? £500 for an ugly derailleur and some mudguards!!
I say Alex, that’s like saying anybody hesitating over the potential ‘paddling’ they might get at a public school as part of initiation means they are not PS material, or anyone a little bit precious about getting a thumb in the eye isn’t rugger material.…… erh .….….….….…..oh yes .….….….….….….….you might be right.
On a serious note I think one should purchase the 3 speed guvnor if one wants to even if it is only as an occasional dry day bike cos they don’t like a big stripe up their butt — as that is the only way (single speed is the way of the pedant). If one can afford it of course.
Having ridden one in the rain home from work then its a little bit like Marmite you either ‘like it’ or tolerate it or you don’t. Perhaps the OP should ride a bicycle in the rain without mudguards then understand fully what they are getting themselves into. When I wobble at the prospect of riding sans mudguards (I went to a comp rather than a PS) I ride my 1938 Humber with mudguards and full chain case.….…..
Anyway, once one has the damn thing then one can ‘customise it’ (I believe that is the current parlance) as one sees fit. Handlebar tassles, spokey dokes, playing card in the balley spokes with a clothes peg or one of those new fangled titanium bits and pieces (I know the seat has titanium rails) or even - dammit - some of those bloody monstrosities the wooden mudguard! I mean woodfor gods sake whatever will they think of next ‘aloominum’ as our erh English speaking cousins would have it.….…
Buy one, buy one, buy one! You will not regret it. Those who don’t understand, don’t understand — who cares.….…..
Less is more.
Oh and one more thing I can stand the OP fitting all manner of things as above even tassels — but for gods sake man,.….…. its Guv’nor!!!!!!!!!
after my first month of ownership, have to admit — no interest in buying any mudguards — or indeed any of those longawaited accessories. A glorious sunny day like today, Oxford towpaths, perhaps a pint or two, — perfect!
I have never regretted mine .… And the way I see it a soggy bum is character building anyway .
And I must add (just to wind the purists up lol) .… what a fantastic machine to experiment with belt drive too .… once the funds are available I hope to get a Rohloff and belt drive conversion for longhaul peak touring.
Anyway I’m off to e-mail Jean Paul Gaultier to see about a waterproof kilt.
I think whatever one does to their guv’nor is a personal choice and should be respected as such
I recently added some mudguards that I feel compliment the look and feel of the bike, and living on the west of scotland I have already reaped the benefits of arriving at my destination without a soggy backside.
Since it rains between the showers here I felt I had no other choice, but I am very happy with my decision.
I would say to any potential buyer that he should give a guv a test ride first and make his mind up then.
The Guv’nor is the main attraction, whether it be a single, three, four or the upcoming two speed model.
I know the mere mention of mudguards, lights, kickstands et al may make some of our number choke on their kedgeree, not to mention anything other than single speed, but the Guv’nor must be fit for the owners purpose and needs.
Remember the Guv’nor is a modern cycle; “With the purpose and style of the indomitable Path Racer, it has an unashamed elegance in its graceful lines that delight the eye”*, so the owner should be mindful of this statement, if they don’t want to detract from what presumably attracted them to the Guv’nor in the first place!
The Clubman looks to be a very nice cycle in its own way, but for me it just doesn’t tick the boxes in the way the Guv’nor does. The acid test, of course, will be whether the Clubman spawns its own owners club?
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