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1:39 pm
May 16, 2010


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

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posts 395

Hartwig.….……thanks you for the photo, I see you have also used the Brooks Challenge cloth bag to wrap the tools in! I’ve always been a bit wary of adjustable spanners, but you obviously find them okay, I’ll check them out.….….safe riding one and all, Geoff.

3:35 pm
May 16, 2010


topper-hardy

Luebeck, Germany

Regular

posts 63

Post edited 8:00 pm — May 17, 2010 by topper-hardy


Geoff.….… at home in my little workshop I too, prefer to use proper tools and would not use adjustable spanners either, but on the road they will work quite well, providing you buy good quality ones.

Another option might be something like this: http://www.weldtite.co.uk/prod.….nners.aspx

or a set of cone spanners in the required sizes, together with a small screwdriver and an allen key. The flat build of cone spanners makes them a perfect fit for small tool bags.

Last, but not least, the beautiful Brooks Tool Roll, consists of all necessary tools but it is expensive and I could not find a way to fix it properly on the Guvnor. I also rejected the plan to put the tools from the Tool Roll into the Challenge. 

Kind regards, Hartwig


(edited wrong link and justice for Duchy Wheeler — I was constantly misspelling his name, hope I’ll be forgiven ;-))

5:17 pm
May 16, 2010


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Post edited 5:12 pm — May 16, 2010 by Duchy Wheeler


Hartwig.….…. thanks for the link, I’ve had a root around my toolbox and came across a suitable Dowidat adjustable spanner that opens to 12mm., I understand this is a quality make, it seem to be. So that will go in the Challenge with the Topeak Mini 9, which I have just sourced and ordered on eBay. Just a point of interest regarding Brooks spoke spanner, which is included in their Tool Roll, only the 3.3mm. size is of any use and that’s a sloppy fit, for the front wheel of the Guv’nor, the rear requires 3.45mm., Park Tools triple spoke wrench SW-7 (3.23/3.3/3.45mm.) is the one to go for if you haven’t already got one, compact and top quality.….…..safe riding one and all, Geoff.  

6:39 pm
May 16, 2010


topper-hardy

Luebeck, Germany

Regular

posts 63

Post edited 7:58 pm — May 17, 2010 by topper-hardy


Geoff… thank you very much for the advice regarding the Parktool Spoke wrench. I knew about the problems with the Brooks spoke spanner, but I was not sure that the Parktool SW 7 would do the trick. This will certainly be the next addition to my tool kit. In my workshop I have a set of the regular Park Tool and Pedros spanners, but they are too bulky to add to a travel-tool kit.

Kind regards, Hartwig


(edited as an act of jusitce to Duchy Wheeler ;-))

12:02 pm
Jul 22, 2010


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

One and all,

I recently aquired a spare chain, a KMC Z510HX, which came with a spring clip connecting link. My Guv’nor is fitted with one of these chains, but the connecting link is a ‘TAVA Boron Link’, looks to be a reuseable snap type link. Have any of you fellows any info/source on this make of link? I’ve searched the web but nothing found!

Safe rides, Geoff.


3:12 pm
Jul 31, 2010


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

One and all,

The reason I found nothing on the web is the make is ‘TAYA’, not ‘TAVA’, small stylised lettering on a chain connecting link didn’t help identification! Anyway, checking out reviews etc. on the web, this snap link doesn’t rate very highly, neither do their chains. I note Halfords stock this brand, which probably says it all. 

KMC’ seem to be rated, and ‘Wippermann’ highly rated.

Have any of you fellows Guv’nor riders have any recommendations, comments or expierences on chains and various types of connecting links?

Safe rides, Geoff.

8:32 am
Aug 3, 2010


Fenrir

London

Regular

posts 165

Chaps,


Whats the best remedy for squeaking brakes? Mine have flared up recently, and it’s grating slightly.


Cheers


E

9:15 am
Aug 3, 2010


The Cycling Photographer

Moderator

posts 407

Post edited 9:31 am — Aug 3, 2010 by The Cycling Photographer


Sir, I live in a very hilly area. When I first received my Guvnor I didn’t.

On the odd occasion my brakes squealed at bit. Now they don’t after

descending at a rate of knots down 12 percent gradients!

Perhaps a little full speed and descent braking somewhere near you

would do the trick?! Sometimes the drums need a bit of rough treatment.…

Ride on!

6:25 pm
May 21, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

One & All,

Since Pashley appear not to be in the business of supplying spares for their cycles. I wondered if any of you fellows have any information, make and type etc., of the brake levers and brake cables used as original equipment on the Guv’nor, including the rear pivot lever fitted to the Plus Four and the Plus Two?

Safe rides.

DW.


6:43 pm
May 21, 2011


Biscuit

Regular

posts 92

Fenrir said:

Chaps,


Whats the best remedy for squeaking brakes? Mine have flared up recently, and it’s grating slightly.


Cheers


E


I had a similar problem from the front (I have also posted elsewhere re wanting the brakes to be a little keener)


I did the following;

  1. Removed both wheels.
  2. Separated drum brake side from hub side.
  3. Very faintly and gently used a small piece of fine wet and dry (dry) to ‘hone’ the braking surface in the direction of rotation after blowing out some dust (do not breath this in). Blow out dust again.
  4. Then used some thinners on a rag to clean the surface of the shoes and the drum surface until there were no dark marks left on the rag
  5. Carefully reassembled all safety and other critical bits.
  6. Rechecked tightness and fitting of all parts removed. Checked again. Smile I will bore you with a story of what happened when a bike shop left a torque arm loose and I didnt check their work.….one day YellYellYellYellYell.….….….….……Cry
  7. Took for a gentle test ride after nibbing up the shoes until they were just off biting point (best use bike stand — for me anyway) and
  8. Then took for a rather more robust testing.
  9. Hey presto, tyres that emit a gentle scrubbing sound on the tarmac in an abrupt stop with definately improved braking from the shop as well as no screech.….….

9:16 pm
May 23, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Duchy Wheeler said:

One & All,

Since Pashley appear not to be in the business of supplying spares for their cycles. I wondered if any of you fellows have any information, make and type etc., of the brake levers and brake cables used as original equipment on the Guv’nor, including the rear pivot lever fitted to the Plus Four and the Plus Two?

Safe rides.

DW.



I’m still wondering, do any of you fellows know?

Safe rides.

DW.

9:56 pm
May 23, 2011


Adam

Manchester, England

Moderator

posts 399

Evening Gentlemen,

Mr. Wheeler, SJS Cycles appear to have a fairly extensive range of SA products. If you click on “Download Instructions” they have kindly attached the relevant SA .pdf manual (including part numbers).

From my recent adventures I can confirm that cables are SA items, no idea about the brake levers and other more oesoteric parts Pashley use.

Regards,

Adam

11:00 pm
May 23, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Adam.…..thank you for the info. on the brake cables, I had an inkling they were SA. (By the way, hope your repairs are progressing well?)

One & All,

Now, what about the brake lever makes and types, I think I recall someone mentioning Shimano and Cane Creek in a post a while ago?

I would like to know so that I can consolidate this and other original equipment component information to form a reference base for members.

Safe rides.

DW


2:25 pm
Aug 20, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

One &  All’,

Following on from the recent topic ‘The Chain’, I’m looking to remove, check and clean my chain and also take the opportunity of changing the rear sprocket to a 22T, to lower the gearing, and replace the poor quality TAYA connecting link.  

Checking out various trusted websites they advise against the use of WD40, but ordinary white spirit seems to be the thing if you don’t want to go for pricey proprietary brands.  Have you fellows any observations? 

Safe rides, DW

5:32 pm
Aug 20, 2011


MGCycleChap

Derbyshire

Regular

posts 319

Evening Gentlemen… personally I’ve always found White Spirit to work very well. My technique is once the chain is removed to use an old large coffee jar drop the chain in, pour in spirit and gentle shake ! (make sure lid is sealed mind)… then once fished out leave on old towel to dry off.…


… however Wertie was swearing by the merits of “petrol” as a cleaning agent of choice…


MGcC

5:38 pm
Aug 20, 2011


Adam

Manchester, England

Moderator

posts 399

Evening Gentlemen,

An “Old Boy” once advised me that you can’t beat a lemon cut in half the top and bottom then clamped around the chain. I’m still not sure if he was serious or about to send me off for a “bag of sparks and a long stand”

I’ve used the Park Tools chain cleaner for years now, quick, clean and a refreshing citrus smell.

Regards,

Adam

8:55 pm
Aug 20, 2011


Rich Senior

New Forest

Regular

posts 111

Post edited 8:56 pm — Aug 20, 2011 by Rich Senior


Evening all,

I have used a Park Tools cleaner like the esteemed Mr. Adam, works great, however don’t be too deceived by the sweet citrus smell and ‘eco friendly’ labelling as it leaves big brown patches on the lawn, much to the Management’s displeasure…

I also have tried Foam degreasers which work well. But if your going to remove the chain I would think Mr. MGcC’s jar method takes a lot of beating.

Warm regards

Rich


4:50 pm
Aug 22, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

One & All,

Pleased to report that White Spirit did a top hole job of cleaning the chain; left it to soak awhile with some gentle agitation, amazing how much crud come off a seemingly clean looking chain! I must say I’m quite impressed with the original equipment KMC Z510HX chain, no visible wear or measurable elongation.

Also replaced the rear Sturmey Archer sprocket from 20T to 22T, a very straightforward task, once the rear wheel is removed, a simple spring circlip holds it in place. I need all the help I can get on these ‘ere Cornish hills!

I decided not to fit chain tugs, bearing in mind I’ve had the Guv’nor for nearly two years and haven’t had any rear axle slippage problems. I’m wondering whether this issue is more common on the single speed model? The anti-rotation tab washers, fitted to the three speed model, may have the added benefit of keeping the axle secure?

I also discarded the poor quality TAYA snap link in favour of a traditional KMC spring clip link. Hopefully this will make chain removal easier and also maintain the chain integrity and strength. 

Safe rides, DW.  

  

12:02 pm
Aug 23, 2011


Rich Senior

New Forest

Regular

posts 111

Post edited 12:02 pm — Aug 23, 2011 by Rich Senior


Dear Mr. Wheeler,

Glad your maintenance and upgrades went well. Did you manage to get a Sturmey Archer sprocket or was it some other make? The reason I ask is that when my LBS replaced my rear sprocket under warranty, they told me they ‘upgraded’ the sprocket by replacing it with a Shimano cog. I wonder what the original make of the sprocket is?

How is she rolling now? Can you notice much difference while riding?

Warm regards

Rich 

6:46 pm
Aug 23, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Rich.….…..my new 22T dished sprocket is indeed a Sturmey Archer make, which I purchased earlier this year on eBay from ‘davidsbikebites’, currently BIN price of £4.00 including p&p. 

Did your LBS use a 18T replacement on your single speed model or did you request different size and also why was it replaced under warranty?

Sturmey Archer rear sprockets are original equipment on the Guv’nor. 18T on the single speed giving gear of 65″, 20T on the three speed giving 44″, 59″ & 78″ and by changing to a 22T gives 40″, 53″ & 71″, this is with the standard 42T front chain wheel.

I’ve only taken my Guv’nor for a short road test to check all is running okay, which it is, and inclines encountered seemed less taxing on the legs, amazing what two more teeth can do. Won’t be so fast though, but then I’m not built for speed! 

Safe rides ‘One & All’.

DW


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