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5:16 pm
May 28, 2011


Ian

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posts 82

Dear Gentlemen,

 The end for me and my Guvnor ‘s “chain hanger” (laughs and cheers):

I’ve bought this today 4 euros the two. There are not very beautiful but really efficient.

I’ll go to cut there a little and put a chromed closed screw for the end.

Those pieces are specially made for “Peugeot 103 mobylette” but adaptable on bicycles.

Photos:

 

I must insert a cross big screw just for a good setting


 

That’s all folk’sWink You know what:  I’m happy Cool

6:31 pm
May 28, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

Ian/One & All,

These are the chain tugs I’ve been looking for! See my post in ‘Chain Tugs’ dated 20 September 2010, currently on page 15.

I did happen upon a pair of ‘Diamondback’ chain tensioner in a Halfords clearance bin the other week for £2, they look like a cross between the type shown in your opening post picture and those pictued above.

I think the type shown above are better for the 3 speed model for the reasons mentioned in my ‘Chain Tugs’ post.

I haven’t yet fitted any chain tugs but will when the chain needs to be tensioned or replaced, in the meantime Ian I’ll keep a look out for the type you have fitted.

Proper job!

Safe rides.

DW.

  

5:49 pm
Jun 9, 2011


Ian

Regular

posts 82

Hello gentlemen,


after the final cut, adjusted and polished this is the result.

Before the chain whas a little noisy (I have had a puncture and i must dismont the wheel). 

After no noise.

Efficiently

6:53 pm
Jun 9, 2011


Biscuit

Regular

posts 92

They look a neat job despite your comment regarding how they look.


How did you get around re fitting the ‘anti-rotation washers’, are they fitted between the hub and the stays now?

1:25 am
Jun 10, 2011


Calif Guv

Santa Cruz, California

Regular

posts 40

Hello Gentlemen,


Please take no offense fine sirs, but the anti-rotation washers on the three-speed should be inside the chain-stay between the inside axle nut and chain-stay. Please consult the SA X-RD3 parts list exploded view if you have any questions. My Guv is set-up in this fashion as well with no problems.


http://www.sturmey-archer.com/.….s-List.pdf


Safe riding!


Gary

1:29 am
Jun 10, 2011


Calif Guv

Santa Cruz, California

Regular

posts 40

Self-correcting a bit here:


I’ve seen both installations work just fine, however. I think most of the 3-speed Guv pics I have seen show the inside method. Regardless, if there’s an expert out there, please reveal yourself!


Take care,


Gary

2:11 am
Jun 10, 2011


Calif Guv

Santa Cruz, California

Regular

posts 40

Man!


I’m reading a variety of perspectives regarding anti-rotation washer placement. SA generally shows them on the outside–mine came on the inside. Other’s suggest it is related to axle and drop out length relationship. So, survey to all Guv 3-speeder’s: what is the location of your anti-rotation washers?


Thanks!

Gary

8:50 am
Jun 10, 2011


Ian

Regular

posts 82

Hello,

well, I have no problem with the anti rotation washer.

I don’t touch anything and put the chain tug’s washer directly on the bike.

I see effectivly a piece on the other side of the stay which is included in the “buttonhole” and between the stay and the hub but it’s the original setting.


Best regards  Ian

5:00 pm
Jun 10, 2011


Duchy Wheeler

Cornwall. UK

Regular

posts 395

One & All,

Just a few thoughts/points; the Owner’s Manual states, “Ensure that on the three-speed models the anti-rotation tab washers are fitted to the axle inside the forkends, with tabs facing out.”

I do like the belt and braces of fitting chain tugs, but I haven’t yet had any problem with axle slippage! If the brake torque arm is secure then it should, in theory, hold the whole rear axle/hub steadfast and true?

The type Ian fitted are a less bulky flat washer type which don’t impinge on the anti-rotation washer, also they shouldn’t cause any problem with the position of the SA toggle chain. So I think this the preferred type for the three-speeder.

Safe rides.

DW.

  


7:07 pm
Jun 10, 2011


Adam

Manchester, England

Moderator

posts 399

Evening Gentlemen,

This will be an interesting one to try and question.

Ian, Sir. As chain wear causes the chain to become slack you’ll need to tighten the nut against the chain stay to tension the chain.

At the moment it looks like the nut and the cap nut lock against each other as the bolt part effectivly gets longer how are you going to lock the two nuts together?

Regards,

Adam

7:07 am
Jun 11, 2011


Ian

Regular

posts 82

Hello Adam,


A little technical for my english. I ask a translation to a member of my family (English teacher).

Becoming after.


Regards


Ian

7:55 am
Jun 11, 2011


Biscuit

Regular

posts 92

Biscuit said:…

How did you get around re fitting the ‘anti-rotation washers’, are they fitted between the hub and the stays now?


Sirs — can I offer my apologies for the confusion perhaps caused.

After sucking on the briar for a short while and indeed donning my best smoking hat to increase the powers of thought beyond that which a mere MTB or carbon fibre bicycle rider could summon I had a moment of epiphany!

That tabs are only an issue if you use the chain tug which ‘invades’ the axle slot in the frame so bending them or requiring a tiny bit of modifying (as long as they still engage in the slot). If you use a chain tug that is in essence a flat washer then ‘presto’ the washers can be fitted inboard, outboard or as per whichever instructions you have that you choose to follow — as long as they engage.

I was taken by their lack of visibility and am aware that without them things can go a bit erh how one might say ‘rotational’.Smile

SorryEmbarassed


9:28 am
Jun 11, 2011


Ian

Regular

posts 82

Post edited 9:29 am — Jun 11, 2011 by Ian


Hello,

to Adam, the first nut (the bigger) is here only to fit on the non-screwed part of the chain tug .  It is not screwed it’s to large and the closed nut just stay on.

I have cut the screw at the good length.

It’s O.K. ?


Regards

Ian

10:45 am
Jun 11, 2011


Adam

Manchester, England

Moderator

posts 399

Morning Gentlemen,

M. Ian, your English leaves me highly embarrassed by my French.

Your explanation makes perfect sense thank you. I’ve had the ones fitted on your original picture since the purchase of my Guvnor and found they perform their job perfectly.

I hope the weather in France is suitable for you to test you modification.

Regards,

Adam

3:42 pm
Jun 14, 2011


Ian

Regular

posts 82

Hello Adam,

thank you.


My english was essentially elaborated in time with school remembers, Beatles songs, an old dictionary (1940 of my mother) and this precious site .

I am better in writting than speaking.

Dramatically, I never went in England essentially because my wife prefer the south towns. But , 61 aged and work finished it’s one off my secret dreams  and I’ll do this one of those days .


Best regards


Ian

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